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Speak Out: Are You For or Against ‘Obamacare’?

Hundreds protest both sides Tuesday outside the Supreme Court.

 
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Hundreds of protesters for and against “Obamacare” turned out in front of the Supreme Court Tuesday.

Hundreds of people gathered outside the Supreme Court on Tuesday to protest for and against President Obama’s health care reform. The high court is hearing arguments for the second of the three-day hearing.

The case, according to the Washington Post, largely rests on the constitutionality of a provision that originated deep in Republican circles.

"As Americans we all deserve affordable health care," said Allan Jordan, of Piscataway, N.J., outside the Supreme Court on Tuesday. "Health care is too high, and not everyone has the funds to pay for it. That's not right."

The justices started zeroing in on whether Congress had the power to require most people in the U.S. to buy medical insurance, according to Reuters. The wire service also reported a ruling in the case is expected in late June before the Democratic and Republican party presidential nominating conventions.

The law requires people to obtain health insurance by 2014 or pay a penalty, according to Reuters. The challengers, including 26 of the 50 states and a small-business trade group, contend Congress exceeded its authority to regulate commerce with that so-called individual mandate.

"It's crazy to think that the government can make you have health insurance," said Bob Dickerson of Oklahoma. "I don't like the sound of that at all."

What are your views on "Obamacare"? Has Congress exceeded its authority? Or was reform necessary? 

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Eric Jeffrey

2:59 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

First, it is not Obamacare, it is the Affordable Health Care Act. It is not the bill presented by the Administration, but one thet reflects a multitude of major compromises with Republicans, even if they chose not to vote in favor.

I am in favor of the Act in preference to what we have now because it would include more people and more conditions within insurance coverage, which is to the benefit of us all. And with some luck, it will reduce costs down the road. My preference, however, would be for a single payer system.

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Ron Dickerman

8:21 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

There were zero compromises with Republicans over the writing of this bill - in fact, the bill was written behind closed doors by a core group of Democrats with Republicans excluded. Remember the Pelosi comment, "We have to pass this bill so we can find out what's in it." According to the non-partisan CBO, the bill will actually significantly increase costs to the point of being unsustainable by ~2020, and will actually cover less people than are currently covered by Medicare/Medicaid.

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Brian Montgomery

5:58 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Well said, Mr. Ron Dickerman! Facts are facts.

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Mises

11:46 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

I think calling it Obamacare is necessary. If it ruins this country, people need to be readily aware of the origins. If it solves all of our problems (which I doubt), then due credit needs to go to Obama. I don't think you will have much success trying to pull Republicans in under the umbrella of responsibility either by saying they "compromised". Most conservative Americans not only dislike the policies of the left, but they are highly dissatisfied with the Republicans and the government as a whole. They no longer feel that the government is representative of the whole and has the best interests of the country in mind.

Zachary Quinn

4:50 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

For. I don't understand why the Republicans want the majority of the country to suffer. The Democrats need to take Bob McDonnell to the Supreme Court to fight his terrible new abortion laws in Virginia also.

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Robert Morris

3:54 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

This bill will cover a very small population of Americans -- certainly NOT the majority as you state. The cost has already doubled to almost TWO TRILLION dollars. This bill alone will bankrupt our country, cause huge increases in taxes and inflation, and open wide the doors for fraud and corruption. If there was a truly bipartisan effort that would cover required recipients, I would agree to it, but this does not justly provide coverage at a fair price.

Bendy Viragh

6:01 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Handing over one sixth of our economy to the Obama Government in sheer insanity. Having bureaucrats determine the type and amount of health care treatment to be awarded to each citizen, based on age, and who knows what else , may successfully imitate the Canadian model - that's why Canadians are flocking to our shores to get medical treatment.

Over-reaching Government and usurping power, step by step, was the process employed by the Weimar Republic. Obamacare is just another nail in the coffin of our American way of life and our liberty.

Question: If, by some manipulation and abuse of executive powers, Obamacare will stay with us, who will pay the costs? The "evil rich"?

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Amelie Krikorian

8:08 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

I agree --- every country with a public health policy like this is deeply in debt as a result, plus the coverage generally is much worse than what we have now. I have a friend in England on their version of Obamacare who had to wait almost 18 months to get his impacted wisdom teeth pulled. In the meantime, he was prescribed percocet and biaxin for that whole time for the pain and infection, and became addicted to percocet. I have friends in Canada who come here and pay out of pocket for surgery because the wait is so long in Canada. I can't think of a single instance where the government has taken over something from the free market and had it turn out well. As far as the "right" to health insurance, as something we "deserve" -- really? Where does it say that in the Constitution? There is a COST to health care as every human being has known for thousands of years. People get eight years of training and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for it; now the government wants to dictate what they charge and double their patient loads as well? Democracy means we all have the opportunity to do well or totally screw up. Stop bailing out people with freebies they "deserve."

Leslie Campbell

6:09 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

As someone who has to purchase insurance on the individual market (and sees 30% increases in premiums each year)....YES to the Affordable Health Care Act (or Obamacare). All those who oppose seem to have employer sponsered health care. They just don't realize they are one layoff away from having to see the MANY benefits of the this law that are really for the public good.

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Squeak

8:53 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

My thoughts exactly. Case in point: I know a family whose members have been screaming about Obama and his policies since his election in 2008, yet once their 24-year-old son lost his job a year ago, they're happy enough to have him under their insurance, thanks to the health reform law. It's very easy to be against a law that helps other people when you yourself aren't in need of the help.

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April

10:53 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

I too know people who have benefited from the parts that are already in effect. Health insurance is far too costly for unemployed, or even average income workers. It's a craps shoot whether they fall into bankruptcy because of a medical crisis,

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Corinne Magee

7:32 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

My husband and I had a company policy including our young-adult daughter. When the premium shot up to $4,500/month (yes, that is not a mistake) because of our daughter's pre-existing conditions, we were able to put her on the government program at $185/month, which brought our premium (with a new company) down to $1,500/month. I don't know what we'll do if the program is declared to be unconstitutional.

Sherry Watkins

7:06 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

The Republicans stopped Americans from having a Public Option, which is the best way to make the private insurance companies provide fairly priced services. Until we get a Public Option, I am thrilled that President Obama and the Democrats, through the Affordable Care Act, have prevented private insurance companies from taking away our insurance under false pretexts right when we need it. It’s unconscionable what these companies have done for years!

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April

10:47 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Agreed - no more denials for prior conditions. Cherry picking and paying minimum costs is all part of the game played by the for-profit insurance companies.

Jeff

7:06 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

against OBAMA CARE it has made my health insurance go up $400.00 per month
the only people who benefit are the insurance Companies this bill gave them a license to steal the CEO for United health Care made $122m last year

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Joe V

8:38 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

The "Affordable Health Care Act" is just the beginning. Do you want to have to grovel to politicians 25 years from now, begging them to not cut your precious benefits? Like voting for the candidate who promises the most "free" stuff? The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples' money. If you are old, you don't have to worry about this (unless you have kids or grandkids that you care about), but if you are young, then think about whether you want to be jumping on a 2-year waiting list for that knee surgery, or whether you want your life to be in the hands of some bureaucrat when you get cancer someday.

The only way to make healthcare more affordable is through true competition. (Perhaps start by requiring states to recognize insurance policies from other states?) If we head down the path of Obamacare, then the next step is the "public option". Folks say "hey, doesn't that mean more competition?" No, no it doesn't. It means that the federal government -- which doesn't have to turn a profit -- will undercut private insurers until it drives them completely out of business (which is the ultimate goal of this law). Once private insurers are out of business, then the federal government will have a complete monopoly on the most personal and important service in existence. And once they have that, they have YOU.

Decide whether you want to be a citizen or a groveling subject.

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Mises

9:10 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Definitely a no. The government is too big, is growing too fast, and has shown than any program it runs is grossly mismanaged, overpriced, and inefficient. Whether I agree with some sort of government-run healthcare is irrelevant...I just wouldn't hire our government to do it. I will agree to Act when we pay off the national debt and stop spending more than we bring in.

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RJ

11:01 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

For the sake of argument here are the salient parts of AHCA:

Guaranteed issue and partial community rating will require insurers to offer the same premium to all applicants of the same age and geographical location without regard to most pre-existing conditions (excluding tobacco use).[18]

A shared responsibility requirement, commonly called an individual mandate,[19] requires that all persons not covered by an employer sponsored health plan, Medicaid, Medicare or other public insurance programs, purchase and comply with an approved private insurance policy or pay a penalty, unless the applicable individual is a member of a recognized religious sect exempted by the Internal Revenue Service, or waived in cases of financial hardship.[20]

Medicaid eligibility is expanded to include all individuals and families with incomes up to 133% of the poverty level along with a simplified CHIP enrollment process.[21][22]

Health insurance exchanges will commence operation in each state, offering a marketplace where individuals and small businesses can compare policies and premiums, and buy insurance (with a government subsidy if eligible).[23]

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RJ

11:02 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Pt2:
Low income persons and families above the Medicaid level and up to 400% of the federal poverty level will receive federal subsidies[24] on a sliding scale if they choose to purchase insurance via an exchange (persons at 150% of the poverty level would be subsidized such that their premium cost would be of 2% of income or $50 a month for a family of 4).[25]

Minimum standards for health insurance policies are to be established and annual and lifetime coverage caps will be banned.[26]

Firms employing 50 or more people but not offering health insurance will also pay a shared responsibility requirement if the government has had to subsidize an employee's health care.[27]

Very small businesses will be able to get subsidies if they purchase insurance through an exchange.[28]

Co-payments, co-insurance, and deductibles are to be eliminated for select health care insurance benefits considered to be part of an "essential benefits package"[29] for Level A or Level B preventive care.[30]

Changes are enacted that allow a restructuring of Medicare reimbursement from "fee-for-service" to "bundled payments."

Additional support is provided for medical research and the National Institutes of Health.

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Beka Martinez

7:58 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Against - I've not seen any one denied medical care because they could not pay for it - I HAVE had my insurance deny coverage for treatments they deemed "unnecessary" or "educational". My coverage continues to shrink and my premiums continue to increase far faster than my doctor's rates have. RJ, your analysis was succinct - but what's in the OTHER 2,000-some-odd-pages that no one has read? I personally think if they want to improve life, the government should cap attorney and insurance fees

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Carol Lewis

8:01 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Thank you, RJ, for your post for the sake of reason and facts. I don't understand why opponents fear that the govt will have control of our health care. The Act is about accessible and affordable health insurance, not about care. Women in particular will benefit from this Act as they will no longer be subjected to discrimination by insurance companies who now make them pay higher premiums. And particularly for those in Virginia, who oppose the Act but support Gov McDonald's ultra sound bill, there is no more intrusive govt control of your care than in that bill.

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mick hanson

9:04 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

As a tax paying citizen, I am for the plan the President is on. The plan the congress is on. If this new Health Care plan is the “bomb” then why do we need waivers for some companies. Either it is good enough for all of us or none of us.

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Joe Brenchick

9:41 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Given the track record to date of government programs in general, I have no desire what-so-ever to let some bureaucrat run my healthcare. This isn’t to say the present system doesn’t have problems that need to be addressed and some reforms would be welcomed.

But I shutter when I hear someone say, “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

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Dana

10:25 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Totally For. Healthcare is a minimum for everyone.

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April

10:47 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

The Affordable Care Act is just the first step we need to take. There are too many people who fall bankruptcy because of a medical crisis. A simple car accident can easily lead to costs starting at $30k, which would wipe most people out.

If a person does not have access to group insurance plan, the minimum cost is $500/mo, and that is with a very high deductible. Most people in the Washington area have health insurance through employers, and are completely unaware that employer-sponsored health insurance is very low in many pockets of the country overall.

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Robert Morris

4:09 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

April, automobile insurance carries medical coverages, too. Are you driving without or advocating others drive without automobile insurance?

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JAMIE

4:30 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

the same could be applied to homeowners and renters insurance. Too often people make spending choices in their lives that are a risk. For example choosing to buy a new car or the latest technology instead of affording various insurances or saving for unplanned expenditures. We spend too much time trying to "keep up with the joneses" instead of ensuring we don't become a "burden on the joneses" So why is it that those who have planned for both known and unknown things in life shoul dhave to now pay even more to bail out those who haven't. If you take the risk you should have to deal with the consequences

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April

4:43 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Robert , auto insurance covers medical costs for liability purposes. Auto insurance pays for someone else who becomes hurt by the insured driver. People do not get auto insurance to cover their own medical insurance. They get a health plan.

And since you bring this up, I would like to point out that auto insurance is a mandate. Auto insurance is not an option for drivers.

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JAMIE

12:26 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Auto insurance is a mandate because driving is a privledge not a right.

Nancy Barron

11:24 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

totally against. They shouldn't be able to force anyone to buy anything.

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Dave

11:31 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

The U.S. ranks 37th in the world in quality of health care and 34th in infant mortality yet per capita costs are by far the highest. Opponents of the Affordable Health Care Act always point to the worst European example of universal health care - the U.K., as the evil poster child of socialized medicine. However, Switzerland, with a cost of living more than 40% higher than the U.S., has per capita health care costs 1/3 lower than the U.S. yet the Swiss have a health care system similar to "Obamacare," with obligatory health insurance provided by private insurers. With the possible exception of the U.K., every Western European country has better and more affordable health care than the U.S. - all with universal coverage. Universal health care in the U.S. is inevitable even if the Supreme Court votes down this version. It may have to take a different form.

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Nancy Barron

11:38 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

having been a really poor person I know the advantages of poverty in this country. I have not been denied health care except by doctors who feel they won't be paid enough by Medicaid, (That is all the nurologists except one in 50 mile redius of my home. I will receive care, but not by just any doctor. They can refuse me. If they force people to buy Obamacare what will the doctor's fee be? Will the doctor be forced to accept patients who have this type of coverage? Will they be forced to see patients with lower payment ceilings? Will they still be able to refuse poor people? Whe medical profession is forced into this position. They have this highest incomes around, but also high insurance fees to pay against law suites etc.

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April

8:31 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

This is interesting. So you already have a healthcare plan, courtesy of the tax payers, and do not want others to have a health care plan. Very interesting.

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April

8:39 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

April

8:37 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Jaime and Resident - You may not be around anymore as we all have lives to live, but I do wonder what you think of this woman's situation.

It's probably just me, but this strikes me as ironic. The whole reason anyone wants a health plans because the costs are shared and spread out among many people. This lowers the costs for everyone in the group. It is the very foundation of any health plan, including medicare.

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Mises

12:12 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

April, this may come as a shock to some, but most people would like to live their lives however they wish to as long as they aren't breaking the law. We like for the government to stay out of our lives and stick to what they were meant to do...uphold the constitution. If the left wants their own system of health care, they should start their own business and operate it as such. They shouldn't hijack our government and force their system on ALL people. If there was a real need for the type of health care that Obamacare is, then why would we have to force everyone to do it. I guess the concept of a free market just doesn't resonate in the minds of the left.

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JAMIE

12:28 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

april. we want to be able to have a health care plan of our own choosing or no thave one. We do not want to have what we do dictated to us by the govt. If we choose to plan for unknown things then great if not we will suffer the consequences

Bob

11:55 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

The issue is not whether or not our country needs healthcare reform, but whether or not this will deliver all that Pelosi, Obama and Reid promised. Unfortunately it will not. We have been sold a bill of goods. The true cost was camouflaged by Congressional budget trickery. One-half trillion dollars was taken from Medicare which is already broke. Implementation of many features were delayed until AFTER the 2012 election to hide the true cost. Do you realize that it will be cheaper for many companies to drop their health insurance program, pay an employee bonus and pay the fine instead of maintaining their current insurance coverage? So much for the promise to "keep your present doctor and keep your present insurance".
The post office, Medicare, Social Security, etc., are all bankrupt and the Federal Govt. runs massive deficits EVERY year. Is there anything that the Feds run effectively and efficiently? Why does anyone believe that this 1100 plus page monstrosity will be any different? A massive, overly expensive, Federal bureaucratic sink-hole is being created instead of a streamlined health care delivery system that we can all understand and pay for.

GOD BLESS THE USA

Bob

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JAMIE

12:03 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Why is it that people who have made personal choices all the way back to when they were inschool about how hard they chose to study, when to have children how to spend their money. attitudes at work, etc. etc etc. now want to say they are enitiled to healthcare. If they would make better choices about how they run their life they would be more able to afford healthcare. that also includes not runnig to the doctor everytime you have a runny nose. This causes your premiums to rise just like not taking care of your health by diest and exercise does. Then they want the cgovernment to step in and bail them out becasue thir own choices didn't work out. That is not the goverments responsiblility. The only parts of this bill that make any sense are the pre-existing conitions when you transfer from company to company. It should not help with pre-existing conditions because you chose not to have insurance before you are diagnosed with a problem. Insurance is for people who planned ahead to "insure" against potential problems. Also the ability for parents to cover their children on their policies is a good thing. It actually should not have a limit. If people are willing to pay the premiums let them. We need to get back to being a country of making people take some personal responsibiltiy for their actions from early in life. Instead we are a coountry of everyone playing the victim whe most of their problems are due to their owb choices

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Lizzie M. Johnson

8:46 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

You never know where you will be. You may have something today but tomorrow it may be gone. I pray you have seen all the disasters that have happened around us
lately. Thousands of people had something one day and in fifteen or twenty minuets it was all gone. Be careful what you speak.

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Mises

9:57 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

@ Lizzie....not sure what you are talking about. What do disasters have to do with the healthcare debate?

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April

10:58 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Jamie - do you mean that the millions who lost their healthcare because of layoffs in recent years - this was because they did not plan? In this area, most people employed will have health care. In other parts of the country employers do not sponsor health care - those people do not get a group rate.

Resident, people can have a medical crisis through no fault of their own. An earthquake, tornado, a car accident resulting from an uninsured motorist who plowed into them. Disasters happen every day.

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Tonto

12:37 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

People who voted for Obama should pay for health insurance for people who lost jobs ..... it was their stupidity that caused it.

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Mises

6:52 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

@ April, that is true. Disasters happen and uninsured motorists happen all the time around here. But people still get the medical treatment when they are injured. They are not denied care when they get to the hospital like most would want us to think. This is about money and thats about it. I am glad I worked my ass off for all these years just to learn that I really didn't need to. We are allowing our government to systematically take away any incentive for striving to do better in our own personal lives. This country will never be as strong as it was and likely will no longer be the best country in the world if these social policies continue.

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JAMIE

12:35 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Resident understands what I am talking about. Financial crisis liek we are exepriencing at this moment happen about once a century. But the vast majority of the people that this new healthcare program will help are the ones that have never prepared for anything. This is not a problem that just started 3 years ago. It has become engrained in our way of life. Take no responsiblilty and let the govt bail you out. It goes from Wall street to Main street. The vast majority of Americans are jsut 2-3 paychecks from not being able to pay their rent. That is what I mean about making choices in life.

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JAMIE

12:49 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

@APRIL. Unfortunatley a large part of our medical issue are due to how we choose to live our lives through diet and exercise. Not all but most. And insurance would be there to cover the rest. Insurance costs would also go down if we took better care of ourselves, thereby requiring less visits to the doctor. We spend too much time in this country saying "It's not my fault".

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April

8:28 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Resident, if you don't have insurance and a hospital provides medical care, they will charge you. Medical expenses are a primary reason for bankruptcy. If you get a $30,000 medical bill, this is on your credit report. Unless they have insurance, most people are wiped out by an unexpected medical crisis. I have no doubt that you worked, but my guess is that your employer offers a group health plan.

Jamie, I understand what you are saying. I still say that many people in other parts of the country do not work for employers that provide a health care plan. Also, I agree that diet and exercise will go a long way towards reducing healthcare costs. Jobs were we sit all day and processed foods are killing our health.

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April

9:26 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Resident - I did not go looking for this. This example of a homeless person who does not have insurance, and gets "care" at a hospital.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/woman-unhappy-with-care-at-st-mary-s-hospital-is/article_ed640f3d-64a0-516c-88ff-fb770b5e9677.html?mode=video

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Mises

9:55 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

April, I grew up without medical insurance. My family was somewhat poor. My parents are actually in debt due to medical bills, but they are realistic people. They pay what they can and there is not much else to it. They may not have the best credit now, but that is the problem with society today. People spend more than they make and use credit like crazy. I suppose our government has shown how to do that best. I asked my mom how she felt about the law (knowing her situation) and she stated that they shouldn't force people to do something they don't want to.

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April

5:35 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Resident thanks for your story and I wish the best for your parents. Some people here would claim that your parents have those medical bills because they did not plan their lives or save or take better care of their health. I personally do not believe that is always the case. In the AHCA, the poor are subsidized and would have a lower cost burden for healthcare. I would also like it if I did not have to pay what I don't want to do. I would prefer to not pay for some wars for example, and car insurance for the mini scooters.

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Mises

11:27 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

We could go on for years about this. Almost everybody agrees that healthcare reform is needed, but how to do it is where we differ. I would rather have the private sector and free market resolve the issue rather than the federal government. Regulations by the feds are one of the reasons health care is so expensive and competition among insurance providers has been limited. The federal government should be promoting improvement, not shoving it down our throats. Trust me when I say this...if left in the hands of the governement, they WILL screw it up.

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JAMIE

12:34 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

April I guess you are missing my point about the planning of peoples lives. I think it is their right to make all the choices in their life. It is not a requirement to plan. But if they make bad ones and do not plan for the unknowns in life then why should they then look to others to bail them out Ie: the govt/taxpayers. They can make better choices of how to spend their money to afford the nececessary items. And it is your rght not to pay for car insurance for a scooter. you just can't drive the scooter. A CHOICE.

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April

1:19 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Jamie - I hear you. You just described the situation for Resident's parents. They have medical bills they do their best to pay the debt as best they can. You believe people are in this position because they did not plan, did not choose to pay the cost of a health care coverage, and so they must pay the piper. It does not matter if a person worked 60 hrs/wk for a small employer who pays them minimum wage and zero benefits such as sick time or health care. If they get sick and cannot work for income, it is their own fault. I hear you Jamie.

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Mises

2:05 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

April, I don't plan on sharing my life story with you, but my parents do not deserve to have everything paid for by the rest of society. They made choices, both financial and lifestyle, that resulted in their situations. They received the urgent care they needed when they needed it, and now they are paying the costs off slowly but surely. I think the idea of affordable healthcare is great...in a world where your country wasn't 15+ trillion in debt. How about we figure that one out first before going out and spending even more.

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JAMIE

3:00 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

April its all about choices. We choose how hard we work in shcool which affects our choices of what jobs we get. How we take care of ourselves affects how often we may get sick and miss work. buying a new car when the old one will last for another year or two affects our financial ability to have insurances or savings. health,life,disability, long term care etc. And just in case you weren;t aware most whole life polices have a provisions for debilitating injuries or illnesses. we all make choices. I too like resident have parents with medical issues, a father who is a paraplegic due to a surgery that went bad. I have a mother who has leukemia. yes they have health insurance & long term care insurance because over the years they made choices to spend the money on this instead of something more enjoyable. i too make those choices about how often to go out to dinner or for drinks, whether to buy a new computer when the old one still works instead of having the extra money for insurance premiums. I have more insurance than some and less insurance than others. All choices that I make everyday. It should not be the job of everyone else to bail me out if I make bad one. I agree that insurance groups are a way to lower overall premiums by spreading risk. but why should those who chose to participate have extra costs thrust upon them due to those who did not. buying groups is one provision I agree with. for those who dont have a company plan to join.

Stephen

8:18 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

I'm against 'ObamaCare'. It was hurriedly put together and forces all of us to purchase health care. It has so much stuff in it, 'The Press' couldn't even say what was in it. A bad law enacted for a noble cause. None the less, in the end, it is still a bad law.

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J.R.

1:26 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

I'm very much against this plan.
It interferes with our most intimate, personal decision of how we will be permitted to take care of the health of ourselves and our families.
President Obama and his Democrat party cronies, are poised to soon have a very rude awakening. He and the Democratic party have seriously underestimated the intelligence, and will, of the majority of Americans who see this as a major league infingement of our rights. Our entire country was founded upon the principle of Liberty.
We are now engaged in an historic internal struggle to combat an unconsitutional attempt to errode our liberties, by chipping away the individual right of every American, to have freedom of choice.
Not to forced to participate in any program that we do not wish to be a party to.

Yet, this boldly written legislation has given the U.S. Government unprecedented power and the authority to do just, exactly, that.
It is not a stretch of anyone's conscience to admit that It the fundemental right of every American right to think for ourselves, and above all, to have the ability to say "no"...and mean it....particularly when our Government plainly oversteps their bounds by intruding into our deeply personal lives by creating this "must-have" mandate that gives them the exclusive right to close the door on our ability to "opt-out", without penalty.

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Larry Reilly

10:26 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

@J.R.
I think the intimate decision has to do with death panels. Remember death panels.
That's what Michelle Bachman and others told us about Obamacare.
But the real death panels were within the insurance companies. Perhaps you recall the huge issue over recissions. That's a technical term in contracts, and you free marketeers believe in contracts.
Recissions are used by insurers to drop you from their insurance plan even though you've paid your premiums for many years. They pull up some pretext, such as the fact that you were treated for acne as a kid decades earlier, to say you really never qualified for their insurance plan.
Look it up.
If we had single-payer, society-wide health insurance then we and the business community could get on with work.
I'm sure you have a pat answer as to why France pays about half what we do on health care and covers most of its citizens. Please don't respond with clap-trap about "freedom fries." They get good medical care. WE DON'T, at least not most of us.
The insurance companies are HUGE, HUGE unnecessary middlemen. Ask any doctor's office about dealing with so many of them and all their odd rules and requirements.

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Tonto

10:16 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Nobady lives forever. Thats nothing to do with evil insurance companies. 400 pound smokers should pay 10 times more for insurance. People who try to stay healthy should pay much less.

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Mises

12:21 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

If France is so great, what are you still doing in the US? We "free marketers" believe you should start your own insurance company that does not make businesses decisions of ANY kind...and we'll see how long you last. Health care as a business is somewhat tricky and there is definitely ethics involved, but it doesn't mean that our government should run.

Joe Brenchick

1:51 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Considering what the entitlement mentality has done to Greece, Germany, France , Europe in general; why would we want to follow a failed philosophy?

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JAMIE

3:19 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

I wholeheartedly agree.

Mises

2:14 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Where do we draw the line. Following the same logic...we should outlaw vehicles. They kill tens of thousands in this country each year, not to mention all the major and minor injuries associated with collisions. Its all for the collective good, right?

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JAMIE

3:24 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

and for that matter. lets force people to diet and exercise and to do this limit how much televisions they are allowed to watch and controll what they are allowed to buy at the grocery store and lest make all food and drinks that are bad for you illegal. Where does it stop. once you start taking away individual freedoms where does it stop. who is the end all be all to know when enough is enough. Certainly not our congressional leaders. We see what they have done with their oen spending habits. We may be the strongest economy in the world but we are also the biggest debtor nation too. Our national debt is just personal credit cards on a grander scale. And these are the people we want dictating how we should choose to live our lives

J.R.

10:57 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

I think that Donald Trump summed it up the best...

Here is some of what he told America....it should make you stand up and
tremble...or, at least..think hard about this Obama Heathcare plan...

(Let me get this straight . . .
We're going to be "gifted" with a health care
plan we are forced to purchase and
fined if we don't,
Which purportedly covers at least
ten million more people,
without adding a single new doctor,
but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents,
written by a committee whose chairman
says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that didn't read it but
exempted themselves from it,
and signed by a Dumbo President who smokes,
with funding administered by a treasury chief who
didn't pay his taxes,
for which we'll be taxed for four years before any
benefits take effect,
by a government which has
already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare,
all to be overseen by a surgeon general
who is obese,
and financed by a country that's broke!!!!!

'What the hell could possibly go wrong?')

Thank you Mr. Trump for telling it like it is!

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Tonto

1:10 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Thanks to Trump also for drawing out the fake birth certificate! Upon examination its revealed as a total fake. OK lets hear it "debunkers".

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